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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Spider ID Reply with quote

Found this spider all webbed up in a flower pot in Bam's Mom's house tonight. It looks like a wolf spider, but I'm not very up on wolves. Anyone know the species and how to take care of it? (I brought it home, only got about a .75" LS, maybe 1")



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chase,

it sure looks like it could be a wolf, but when you say webbed up, you mean in a burrow-type of retreat? or was it a sheet web?
I'm inclining to say that a retreat that is a/or more like a burrow is more likely for a wolf, sheet web... err would be the first one I've known about.

Care-wise, I would say it can definitely take the cold since it was up ~3300 ft. How humid is i up there? How hot does it get in the summer time?
Wolfs are known to eat their fill and can prey on food larger than themselves, I would think that a specimen measuring ~.75" would be able to eat mid-size crickets without a problem.


I would still like to hear other people's opinions, but that is my own Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A website I found had it listed under Grass Spiders. I'm not sure if thats a form of wolf or if its something else completely. It's made an elevated sheet-like web in its new container.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that looks like an Agelenidae grass spider

i found a few mature males so it is at least some of the species breeding season right now


these are generally quite easy to keep.  keep them as a semi-dry semi-arboreal tarantula


if you give them the right set up they will make a big funnel leading to their burrow Smile  to maximize the chance of this happening you need to have a hole in the sub or a rock with a bit of space underneath it... then in front of the hole or rock you need to have some sticks or something sticking into the sub

i do not think they dig much on their on, so you have to pre everything

even if you don't set up for the funnel they will sheet web pretty prodigiously

this is one of the larger species i find, but not the largest specimen

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums...unt/BLCL/araneo/Agelenidae01b.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, sheet-web should definitely be Agelenidae. Cool guys though, they can make some awesome funnel-sheet type webs Smile.
The first pick looks more like a Palm Springs-wolf I received early in the year.

Nice find Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have similar-looking spiders all over the yard and indoors at my place.  I posted some pictures of one on AB a while back and it was ID'd only as far as the Agelenidae family, most likely Hololena sp.

Here are a few pictures for reference.






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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the little spider I rescued from the bathtub this morning.  :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

entirely possible, C

they are one of the most prevalent spiders in SoCA, ime
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it had a funnel shaped web,  and it was indoors in a potted plant ( i thought that to be odd for both wolf and grass spiders O_o)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too long ago i did learn of a certain Genus of Lycosids that builds funnel shaped webs. The Genus is called Hippasa.  Seems like there is 4 known species of Funnel web Wolfs in Florida. I'm guessing it's totally possible there might be other species in other states.

I'm not saying the spider Rosenkrieger found is necessarily from that Genus but it's still a possibility.

I guess the best way to find out whether the spider Rosen found is a Lycosid or an Agelenid would be from the eye arrangement.  All Lycosids have the same eye pattern. 4-2-2.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krawll, I'll definitely check the eye arrangement. The spiders container has a magnifying lid and the spider hangs out right under it, so it shouldn't be too hard. :p



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