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WBurke17

California Tarantulas & Primitive Spiders

There are over 45 described species of mygalomorphae putatively located in Califorina, USA.

Over 25 of these species are non-Theraphosidae (tarantula) mygalos!

There are 6 Families of Mygalomorphae in CA, each with their own treatment thread:
ANTRODIAETIDAE - 3 Genera 14 Species
CTENIZIDAE - 2 Genera 2 species
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE - 3 Genera 8 Species
MECICOBOTHRIIDAE - 2 Genera 2 Species
NEMESIIDAE - 1 Genus 2 Species
THERAPHOSIDAE - no treatment started yet

[editted title to include other prims and stickify - andrew
stole whole first post. moved contents to post three down - andrew]
Jules

Cool Warren,

i wonder if it would take an expert to actually know what we found in any one of those areas that have more than one or if there are any identifying marks at all to tell them apart?? Or if the Aphonopelma phanum, for example, is the absolute only T found in OC - like the ones in San Juan Capistrano or Casper's Regional Park?? Very interesting.
NBond1986

I'm PRETTY sure that the T that I found here in Glendale a few years back was an A. reversum....

but can't be sure, just going off of what Gilbert told me.
admin

heres a list i borrowed off another site
so according to this theres plenty out there we just have to start looking,

Aphonopelma brunnius - San Mateo Co., Santa Clara Co.
Aphonopelma californica - San Diego Co. http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/plates/plate6-8.jpg
Aphonopelma clarum - Los Angeles Co. ( near Claremont)
Aphonopelma cratium - Los Angeles Co.
Aphonopelma cryptheum - Los Angeles Co.
Aphonopelma eutylenum - San Diego Co., north to Kern Co.
Aphonopelma iodius - Riverside Co, San Bernardino Co,. Kern Co., Inyo Co.
Aphonopelma joshua - San Bernardino Co., Riverside Co.
Aphonopelma leiogaster
Aphonopelma marxi - San Bernardino Co. (S. Bernardino Mts.) Tom Prentice, however says that A. marxi is in fact unknown from CA
Aphonopelma mojave - San Bernardio Co, Kern Co., Inyo Co., Los Angeles Co
Aphonopelma phanum - Orange Co. (Laguna Beach)
Aphonopelma radinum - Los Angeles Co. (Manhattan, Beach)
Aphonopelma reversum - Orange Co., Riverside Co, San Diego Co. http://canadianarachnology.dyndns.../habitus/Aphonopelma_reversum.jpg
Aphonopelma rileyi - Santa Barbara Co. (Santa Barbara)
Aphonopelma rusticum - Alameda Co. (Berkeley)
Aphonopelma steindachneri - San Diego Co.

Source:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~stevelew/myg.html

W

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cacoseraph

here is the first set of Google Image Searches for the non-thereaphosidae
if the google image search link just says the genus name then there were no species level pics available
if the google image search link is an italic genus then there is no search to genus level (see second set)

FAMILY GENUS SPECIES urlGiS
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus aquilonius Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus californicus Aliatypus californicus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus erebus Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus gnomus Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus gulosus Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus janus Aliatypus janus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus plutonis [url="http://images.google.com/images?svnum=50&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Aliatypus]Aliatypus [/url]
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus thompsoni Aliatypus thompsoni
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus torridus Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Aliatypus trophonius Aliatypus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Antrodiaetus montanus Antrodiaetus montanus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Antrodiaetus pacificus Antrodiaetus pacificus
ANTRODIAETIDAE Atypoides gertschi Atypoides gertschi
ANTRODIAETIDAE Atypoides riversi Atypoides riversi
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second and final non-theraphosidae chunk

CTENIZIDAE Bothriocyrtum californicum Bothriocyrtum californicum
CTENIZIDAE Hebestatis theveneti Hebestatis theveneti
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Aptostichus atomarius Aptostichus
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Aptostichus hesperus Aptostichus
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Aptostichus n spp Aptostichus
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Aptostichus simus Aptostichus
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Nemesoides hesperus Nemesoides CYRTAUCHENIIDAE
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Promyrmekiaphila clathratus Promyrmekiaphila
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Promyrmekiaphila n sp Promyrmekiaphila
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE Promyrmekiaphila zebra Promyrmekiaphila
MECICOBOTHRIIDAE Hexurella rupicola Hexurella MECICOBOTHRIIDAE
MECICOBOTHRIIDAE Megahexura fulva Megahexura MECICOBOTHRIIDAE
NEMESIIDAE Brachythele Iongitarsus Brachythele <-- NOTE: this is "really" Calisoga longitarus and we got 'em! http://scabies.myfreeforum.org/about39.html
NEMESIIDAE Calisoga theveneti Calisoga
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Wow! I never knew that the trapdoor spiders were mini tarantulas. I've always thought that they looked like hairless T's but I never knew nor would've guessed that they were Ts!



weeellll.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecicobothriidae is what i meant specifically as the mini-tarantulas. those things, "real" tarantulas, trapdoor spiders, sydney funnel web, and some others are all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mygalomorphae spiders



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http://www.americanarachnology.or..._free/JoA_v22_n3/JoA_v22_p225.pdf

AWESOME 31 page paper on Aliatypus genus in California!



some cool papers on myg's here
http://core.ecu.edu/biol/bondja/pubs.html

the following papers were most apropos to TPS forum:

Bond JE & FA Coyle.  1995.  Observations on the natural history of an Ummidia trap-door spider from Costa Rica (Araneae, Ctenizidae).  Journal of Arachnology, 24: 157-164.
not native to US... but good to know more natural history of other myg's

Bond JE, MC Hedin, MJ Ramirez, BD Opell. 2001.  Deep molecular divergence in the absence of morphological and ecological change in the California coast dune endemic trapdoor spider Aptostichus simus.  Molecular Ecology, 10: 899-910.

Bond JE & BD Opell.  2002. Phylogeny and taxonomy of the genera of south-western North American Euctenizinae trapdoor spiders and their relatives (Araneae: Mygalomorphae, Cyrtaucheniidae).  The Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society. 136:487-534

Bond JE. 2004. The Californian euctenizine spider genus Apomastus: the relationship between molecular and morphological taxonomy (Araneae: Mygalomorphae: Cyrtaucheniidae). Invertebrate Systematics, 18: 361-376.

Hendrixson, BE & JE Bond. 2004. A new species of Stasimopus from the Eastern Cape Province of South Africa (Araneae, Mygalomorphae, Ctenizidae), with notes on its natural history. Zootaxa. 619: 1-14.
not native to US... but good to know more natural history of other myg's

http://core.ecu.edu/biol/bondja/p...ations/Hendrixson%20%26%20Bond%20(2005a)%20Microunicolor.pdf
Hendrixson, BE, J.E. Bond. 2005. Two sympatric species of Antrodiaetus from Southwestern North Carolina (Araneae: Mygalomorphae: Antrodiaetidae). Zootaxa 872: 1-19
note: the url contains %20 characters (spaces) that are not being parsed right. visit the pubs page to download this paper
not native to US... but good to know more natural history of other myg's

Bond, JE, DA Beamer, MC Hedin, & T Lamb. 2006. Combining genetic and geospatial analyses to infer population extinction in mygalomorph spiders endemic to the Los Angeles region.
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non-theraphosidae familes

ANTRODIAETIDAE folding trapdoor spiders wikipedia
CTENIZIDAE Trapdoor spiders wikipedia
CYRTAUCHENIIDAE wafer trapdoor spiders wikipedia
MECICOBOTHRIIDAE Dwarf tarantulas, also known as sheet funnel-web spiders wikipedia
NEMESIIDAE Funnel-web tarantulas wikipedia
cacoseraph

GOOD PICTURES


Antrodiaetus pacificus, Folding-door spider
male: http://www.birdspiders.com/gallery/p.php/47
female: http://www.birdspiders.com/gallery/p.php/661
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KEYS TO FAMILY


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The wafer trapdoor spiders (superfamily Cyrtauchenioidea, family Cyrtaucheniidae) are a widespread family of spiders that lack the thorn-like spines on tarsi and metatarsi I and II (the two outermost leg segments) found in true trapdoor spiders (Ctenizidae).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrtaucheniidae
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lizmotobike

okay whats with the stubbies . is there info there? i clicked on everything and nothing comes up?
cacoseraph

lizmotobike wrote:
okay whats with the stubbies . is there info there? i clicked on everything and nothing comes up?


eventually their will be a fair amount of info about TPS in the thread and i want to save those posts for like, organizational purposes

and so far i haven't figured out how to insert posts in a thread, so i was kind of reserving them for my use later on
lizmotobike

cool..... thought there might be a reason but i am not always hip to some computer stuff. thanks, let me know if i should delete these posts.
cacoseraph

lizmotobike wrote:
cool..... thought there might be a reason but i am not always hip to some computer stuff. thanks, let me know if i should delete these posts.


ha, no. i bet other people are wondering what has gone wrong with me or the forum, too

heh
cacoseraph

San Diego
http://www.sdnhm.org/research/entomology/sdspider.html

FAM. ANTRODIATIDAE
Aliatypus plutonis Coyle Coyle 1974
FAM. CTENIZIDAE
Bothriocytum californicum (O. Pickard-Cambridge) Simon 1891b, C.P. Smith 1908
Hebestatis theveneti (Simon) Simon 1891b
FAM. CYRTAUCHENIIDAE
Aptostichus atomaurius Simon Simon 1891b
Aptostichus simus Chamberlin Chamberlin 1917
Aptostichus sp.#1 Prentice 1998
FAM. MECICOBOTHRIIDAE
Hexurella rupicola Gertsch & Platnick Gertsch & Platnick 1979
Megahexura fulva (Chamberlin) Chamberlin 1919a
cacoseraph

woohoo!  the list that warren and i have been basing this stuff off of is not complete!  it had at least one extra species (Nemesoides hesperus) and lacked Apomastus completely!

the plot thickens Very Happy

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