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Steven

looking for a tortoise

Looking for a young tortoise (not a baby ...big enough to fend for itself a bit) for a coworkers son.  SCABIES member, dealer, or local shop... recommendations appreciated.  Wink
rosenkrieger

Someone in my area had sulcata babies for $65
ftorres

Hello Steven,
try a Russian tortoise, they stay small and you will find mainly juveniles or adults available.

I will let you know if I find any.

francisco
Steven

note:wrong forum for me to have posted in ...oh well.  

rosenkrieger wrote:
Someone in my area had sulcata babies for $65

might be a bit problematic...  they grow fast n'huge and are not native(could add to the complexity ...need a native probably... novice keepers it will be in the hands of)   ,,,but maybe im wrong.
Celeste

Check with the Southwestern Herpetologists Society -- they may have tortoises available for adoption.  www.swhs.org

This may sound wacko, but if you check the local animal shelters they sometimes have "exotics" (birds, reptiles, etc.) as well.
ftorres

Hello,
Celeste, I already checked with the San Gabriel,LA and another chapeter I don't remember and they don't have any tortoises.

regards

francisco
Steven

Trusted local dealers?   I dont but animals often ...just dont know who to trust. ...
balam

Russians do stay on the smaller side and are pretty hardy (just read something on them this past week), I think Pet N Jungle had one, but you may want to check with hobbyists first.
Emo Cinderella Boi

check this site they have a lot
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/forum-26.html
i hate going to that site because i just end up craving to buy tortoises Sad they have a good deal on blonde leopard tortoise right now
Celeste

Let me know if you can't find one -- my friend Sandy might have babies.
Steven

Thanks fo r all the info guyz ...kinda lost in the "herp" world.

wow ...figured they were not a dime a doz, but a bit surprised with what they go for.  $$$  ...actually not that surprised...but... Laughing


Russians, sulcata and deserts ...seems they are the main species going round in the pet trade/rescues.   Am I correct in assuming that the Deserts are native (US) species?  

Kid ...good father ...dont know the kid though ...anywho ... if you were to choose a specie, which?? And/or maybe I should be including land (Box) turtles in my investigation?


edit:hmmm.   nother specie...
Quote:
they have a good deal on blonde leopard tortoise right now
   Scanned for the post ...ill look again ...but if u catch this and have quick recall of the link...  ? ...
Emo Cinderella Boi

Steven wrote:
Thanks fo r all the info guyz ...kinda lost in the "herp" world.

wow ...figured they were not a dime a doz, but a bit surprised with what they go for.  $$$  ...actually not that surprised...but... ::Laughing::


Russians, sulcata and deserts ...seems they are the main species going round in the pet trade/rescues.   Am I correct in assuming that the Deserts are native (US) species?  

Kid ...good father ...dont know the kid though ...anywho ... if you were to choose a specie, which?? And/or maybe I should be including land (Box) turtles in my investigation?


edit:hmmm.   nother specie...
Quote:
they have a good deal on blonde leopard tortoise right now
   Scanned for the post ...ill look again ...but if u catch this and have quick recall of the link...  ? ...



here you go
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/thread-8378.html

also, if you have to choose just get the desert tortoise because they are native here.
Celeste

You have to have a permit to keep a Desert Tortoise [legally]...
ftorres

Hello All,
I was told once that If I joined the Desert tortoise Society, I was able to adopt one of the CB babies from the group, is this veridic?

Do you need a permit to get WC or it also applies to CB individuals??

francisco
Celeste

http://www.tortoise.org/general/permit.html
Matt Kogler

All desert torts require a permit & tag from F&G. But you can go through the Ca. Turtle & Tortoise Club for adoptions and tags.

http://www.tortoise.org/
Steven

ok ...interesting
more to think about.
ogershok

Steven wrote:
... if you were to choose a specie, which?? edit:hmmm.   nother specie...


Steven, if it's the last thing I ever do I will eventually train you to say "species" instead of "specie."
Emo Cinderella Boi

Celeste wrote:
You have to have a permit to keep a Desert Tortoise [legally]...


If you got them from the same state you don't need permit unless your going to send them to another state. I was offered a desert tortoise before and the person told me that. oh btw that only applys to CB Smile
Celeste

Emo Cinderella Boi wrote:
Celeste wrote:
You have to have a permit to keep a Desert Tortoise [legally]...


If you got them from the same state you don't need permit unless your going to send them to another state. I was offered a desert tortoise before and the person told me that. oh btw that only applys to CB Smile


Nope -- you have to have a permit to possess a Desert Tortoise in California.  That person who offerred you one was misinformed.  It is also illegal to breed them in captivity (but I think I've seen something about permits to do that -- check with the local Desert Tortoise Rescue groups or the DFG).  
http://www.sdturtle.org/desert%20tortoise%20permits.htm
http://www.tortoise.org/general/permit.html
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/news04/04046.html

I can't find a permit application online, so it looks like you have to actually telephone the DFG to get one...  If you acquired the tortoise legitimately, there should be no problem getting a permit.  (It is illegal to remove them from the wild).  But contact one of the local Desert Tortoise rescue groups -- they always have tortoises available for adoption because it is also against the law to release them back into the wild (because of the possibility of spreading disease back into the dwindling wild population).  The California Desert Tortoise is an endangered species.
Emo Cinderella Boi

thanks for the information Smile
Matt Kogler

Going through the CTTC is much quicker, most of the time that is where F&G will send you anyway..
Steven

Yep ...awesome info ...i appreciate it very much.

Im thinking ill just pass on the info to the guy ...sounds like a native is the way to go...and looks like he would need to deal w/the paper work and whatnot anyway.



Id love to have one or two for my backyard when its finally stable ...but i fear the pool ...I suspect that there can be tortoise accidental drownings in a situation/layout like i have.  Then again...maybe they are smart enough to not fall in.   ??

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