josh_r
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paloma dwarfi thought i would take a trip out today to see if the A. paloma have unplugges their burrows. they usually have their burrows unplugged by a few weeks ago, but with all the rain and cold weather, they have delayed activity. well, looks like they are just starting to become active cause i found a few today.
here are some habitat shots
now, when you first spot the burrows, they dont look like much. typically, people overlook their burrows or think they are a wolf spider. paloma tend to make perfectly round burrows no larger than a dime. the burrow structure is also different from most other spider species.
burrow
size comparison. this burrow is an adult female burrow
me digging up the burrow
the burrows typically go just into the soil at an angle and then widen up then go straight down. sometimes they spiral and other times, they dont. the burrow will go straight down about a foot or so then either cut straight back or double back on itself. it is very easy to lose a burrow if you do not know what to expect. the burrows are no wider than a pen in some places as well. but when all your effort pays off, heres what ya get
here is a size comparison. these are fullgrown adult females!
these are one of my absolute favorite natives. they are much better looking in person as well. they are light silver/gray with an olive green/brown hue over the body and legs. amazing spiders!
-josh
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What
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Very cool!
I have a question for you though, have you tried flooding them out? It would save you some digging and time.
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arachnofein
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awesome pics i wish i had the time to go hiking but have been too busy latley i need to find a place thats closer to me so i could go hunting.
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TheJackal
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awesome find man! 
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josh_r
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| What wrote: | Very cool!
I have a question for you though, have you tried flooding them out? It would save you some digging and time. |
::lol::! tell u what, come out here and ill find you a paloma burrow and you flood it out. i bet you you wont get anywhere with it  our soil composition is mostly granite sand. it has no structure and water just soaks right into the ground. doesnt even flood the burrow. the area i found these little guys in was actually hit by flooding and they still didnt leave their burrows. ive tried many times to flood out our natives here in az and very seldomly does it work. its better to tease them out or dig them out than to flood with these dwarf species.
-josh
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What
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Figured I should at least ask. 
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josh_r
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::lol::! thats cool man. so are u planning on joining the trip out here with a few of the other guiys?? you should. it is going to be a GREAT year this year! we have had so much rain, its rediculous!
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TheJackal
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now thinking about it those things must have some seriously small slings man, have you guys by chance gotten a sac 
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NBond1986
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beautiful pictures!
the size is just amazing! truly a dwarfish looking T. wow.
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cacoseraph
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paradox told me about these. sounds like an EXCELLENT species. for some bizarre reason i find myself attracted to the dwarf species of the giant spiders.
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josh_r
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caco, i am with ya! i LOVE the dwarf T's. they are my favs by far! there is a cool one found north of los angeles, A. cryptethum, that is realllllllly cooooooool!!!!!!!! i found an adult female once and it blew my mind! i gotta get back there and find some more! PM me and i can give you locality data.
jackal, the dwarf T's have spiderlings that are the same size as a large aphonopelma species. the sac is the size of a small grape and there are about 50 or so spiderlings that hatch out every bit as big as any other aphono or brachy species. it is quite amazing actually.
-josh
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TheJackal
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huh well thats pretty, I couldnt imagine dealing with what I assumed would be of their slings
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cacoseraph
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Jack, you should some of the other mygalomorph babies. a number of us got some Calisoga longitarsus babies that were probably around 1/8" DIAGONAL LEGSPAN when we got them. they are a little over a 1/4" DLS now
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Pulk
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I have one about 3/4" DLS.
edit/size
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ftorres
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Hello Josh,
Do you have a pic of the A. cryptethum or can you describe it for us????
thanks
francisco
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josh_r
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A. cryptethum is about 1-1/2 to 2 inch legspan and it JET BLACK! they are a very robust species and are very aggressive. they look like a mini G. pulchra.
-josh
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ftorres
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Do they also happen in the south bay area?
francisco
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josh_r
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no, they are restrictred to southern california.
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TheJackal
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| cacoseraph wrote: | | Jack, you should some of the other mygalomorph babies. a number of us got some Calisoga longitarsus babies that were probably around 1/8" DIAGONAL LEGSPAN when we got them. they are a little over a 1/4" DLS now |
damn...... 
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ftorres
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| josh_r wrote: | | no, they are restrictred to southern california. |
Josh, I read that they were locate north of Los Angeles????
francisco
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josh_r
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they are just north of los angeles. i heard it through the grapevine...wooooh!
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Paradox51483
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I still get a kick out of these guys...I need to get some...hehe
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Ronin
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These palomas are beautiful "little" Ts.
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josh_r
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they are very beautiful mini T's. dwarf T's are my favs by far. there are quite a few more dwarf species here. this summer, i will try to post pics of all of them that i know of
-josh
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cacoseraph
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that is awsome! i didn't realize the US has so many!
man... why in the heck is everyone so infatuated with exotics?
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WBurke17
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Well if you find a native thats blue or purple and a high toxin level, then you'll hit pay-dirt.....
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cacoseraph
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wait till josh posts pictures of Calisoga theveneti 
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josh_r
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caco, i agree with you completely. i have no need for most exotics when we have so many cool natives! dont get me wrong. i LOVE cyriocosmus elegans and other dwarfs, but our native ones are just as friggin cool!!!!
| cacoseraph wrote: | | wait till josh posts pictures of Calisoga theveneti |
hehehehe....hehehehehehe....hehehehehe  hehehehe...hehehehe...hehehehehehe
-josh
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cacoseraph
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for a number of reasons i would not mind at all seeing captive bred CA/USA natives become more popular in the hobby
one of the BIG advanatages is that we could closely regulate the amount of bugs lifted WC and also the methods used to catch them!
of course... controlling the source would also let us sort of set prices... but that is just a happy bonus =P
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josh_r
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very true caco, i would love to start breeding many of the dwarfs as well as other mygals... calisoga sp for instance. even aliatypus and other traps. i gotta start workin on some of these projects
-josh
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cacoseraph
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calisoga, at least longitarus seem VERY well suited to cap! the babies are pretty dang tough, take prekilled food like champs... and since they usually steal other burrows you don't have to worry about them needing special conditions to make a trapdoor or anything like that
plus, they are sexy as hell!
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josh_r
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| cacoseraph wrote: |
plus, they are sexy as hell! |
i couldnt have said it any better!
i am not sure if i am going to be able to make it up to california for the big trip. everyone is bailing out. i am going to try to hold it together tho. i really want to get theveneti
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Habibi18
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I love those! I want one. And they're sexy as hell indeed.
GIVE THEM TO ME NOW!
.....or else...
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