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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herpetologyfrk wrote:
I would love to try keeping these. Where would I go about finding a couple?

Local rivers.  I know where there is a huge population (not that its so easy to find the adults though ...at least during most of the year) ....and like a moron I cant remember the name of the place.  Laughing  But its close by me and its a definite near future hike/hunt for me ...if someone wanted to go... Wink  

I would suspect that ANY local river with cooler, fast(ish) flowing water will have them.  I also suspect that if there is a large salamander/frog population in a river.. there'l be more bugs.   Tadpoles GOTTA be their main prey source.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azusa Canyons, East Fork I have found them in good numbers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to dig up an old-ish thread but I think these guys are awesome! I've never tried keeping them though!

We have Lethocerus americanus in Alberta and they're pretty common. Normally you don't see them for most of the open water season but then get a population explosion of adults in the fall (September). I've found them in rivers and in emergent vegetation along the shores of smaller lakes.

Just a cautionary note about keeping them... The adults do disperse, a lot of the time I'll see these guys flying around by my cabin and in the city around streetlights (they're attracted to light).

I've known a few people who have been "bitten" by them and apparently it hurts. A lot. They inject a venom that contains tissue-dissolving enzymes and then suck up the liquid, so some sort of lid or screen would be a pretty good idea if you're keeping them inside your house!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've known a few people who have been "bitten" by them and apparently it hurts. A lot. They inject a venom that contains tissue-dissolving enzymes and then suck up the liquid, so some sort of lid or screen would be a pretty good idea if you're keeping them inside your house!

Ive played physically with mine alot ...they do grab, but Ive seen nil attempts to actually "bite"...or poke/feed.   But...the grab can feel like somethings biting you.  
Lethocerus americanus ...if u ever desire working out a trade or whatnot ...collect a bunch and im sure others here including myself would most likely be interested.   Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm... Do you know what species you've played with? Perhaps L. americanus is more aggressive... Or maybe the ones in Cali are more laid back! Wink hahaha

I was the teaching assistant for an aquatic invert class last fall and my students had to prepare a museum quality specimen collection, one of my students ignored my warnings about being careful with them, picked it up and got a pretty nasty bite... He seemed like he was in agony for the rest of the collecting trip! That's the reason for my warning! Hahaha

I could probably collect some but I'd have no idea how to ship them and if it would even be legal! Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosey wrote:
Hmmmmm... Do you know what species you've played with? Perhaps L. americanus is more aggressive... Or maybe the ones in Cali are more laid back! Wink hahaha

I was the teaching assistant for an aquatic invert class last fall and my students had to prepare a museum quality specimen collection, one of my students ignored my warnings about being careful with them, picked it up and got a pretty nasty bite... He seemed like he was in agony for the rest of the collecting trip! That's the reason for my warning! Hahaha

I could probably collect some but I'd have no idea how to ship them and if it would even be legal! Any ideas?

I do believe you but still question at very least the probability of being actually bitten.  Had many experiences with those monster americanus toebiterandyeranus back in MN!   Twisted Evil   They were HUGE ...thats why ive wanted them ever since i started keeping bugs in a more "serious" way.  And yes I would not be surprised to find that Abedus herberti tended to be a bit less into "stickin' it in" compared to other species.  Wink
Just never had americanus "bite" me, just grab me. ...and it was ALWAYS super creepy!  
Shipping ...not much at all (well unless...but thats no fun) is completely legal.  Best discuss that stuff with membersviapm ...those that understand the laws and such what.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah well, while you are at it you should get some of these, I mean, this MOFO can take on a piranha Shocked

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/d...nture-water-bug-hunting-video.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven wrote:

Shipping ...not much at all (well unless...but thats no fun) is completely legal.  Best discuss that stuff with membersviapm ...those that understand the laws and such what.

I think she was referring to the fact that she is in Canada and we are in the US...  Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah well, while you are at it you should get some of these, I mean, this MOFO can take on a piranha :shock:

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/d...nture-water-bug-hunting-video.htm



Dang!  How big are those things?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,, I think a piranha's size varies between 6-10" for adults, given that one may assume the prey in the video to be a younger piranha, my guess, that fish must have been ~4" ????

The bug is fairly larger... maybe 5-6" ??????

The largest Giant Water Bug in the family Belostomatidae can reach 150 mm... roughly 6". So then again, this guy may have just been a massive little beast.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think she was referring to the fact that she is in Canada and we are in the US...


Yup! Canada has all kinds of weird laws when it comes to invertebrates...
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I think she was referring to the fact that she is in Canada and we are in the US...
 Kevin...ya missed me point.
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Yup! Canada has all kinds of weird laws when it comes to invertebrates...

Not that weird ...probably about the same as here in the US.  
Best discuss things like shipping in PMs with knowledgeable members ...otherwise this stuff goes on and on and becomes an issue/debate thats been beaten to death so many times before.  Wink  Idea  Rolling Eyes  Wink



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