Here is a scorpion I grabbed during the hike. The little fella is only about an inch long. A majority of the ones seen were S. mesaensis but, I'm thinking this one little guy is a Hadrurus sp. The scorp has different features then a other 2 I grabbed. What do y'all think??????
I think it just an ordinary S.mesa because of the shape of the telson. But then again I am not be wrong but if its a Hadrurus sp. it surely is Hadrurus arizonensis "pallidus".
I know! I was about to take him home with me! I even had it in a deli cup in my backpack for a little bit until I came to my senses and realized that he needed to stay where he lives. I still miss him
I know what you mean. I would have done the same thing! He'll be around for you to enjoy on your next visit! _________________ Jules
I am leaning toward S. Mesa. One thing I noticed is that the S. Mesa seems to run in a different manner than the Hadrurus. I noticed my S. Mesa's all run with their pedipalps extended forward a bit and their tail flat except for their telson which is pointed forward. All of my Hadrurus tend to run with their tail in the air and their pedipalps more to the side than the front.
EDIT: I am retracting my original guess and stating that I believe this to be a Hadrurus Arizonensis Pallidus. My reasoning is based off of the thicker metasoma (as mentioned below), the less bulbous chela, and the possible center of "the mask" around the eyes and the image reference below from Scorpion Files showing a very faded mask. I also lean towards Pallidus as suggest by Vixvy due to the light color between the segments.
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Thanks Guys for EVERYTHING! Sorry I am just posting this now, I got a bad cold that started on Saturday so I have been out of it.
Thanks for all the beautiful photos. Did anyone get one of the beautiful blue centipede?
Anyhow, I had such a great time. This is a great group of people to be with and the knowledge that everyone brings to the table is just great! Everyone jumped in if someone needed help or needed supplies.
I found so many fascinating bugs that I had no idea was just an hour away from me.
Thank you Warren for deli cups and to Francisco for sharing your grabber stick!
Thanks Andrew for sharing your knowledge and books with me!
Thanks Kyle for picking up my Curly slings!
SPECIAL THANKS to Eric for the wonderful singing and entertainment (thanks for the blacklight and the deli cups too)!
I am leaning toward S. Mesa. One thing I noticed is that the S. Mesa seems to run in a different manner than the Hadrurus. I noticed my S. Mesa's all run with their pedipalps extended forward a bit and their tail flat except for their telson which is pointed forward. All of my Hadrurus tend to run with their tail in the air and their pedipalps more to the side than the front.
Interesting observation! I'm gonna make my guys run and observe the difference.
The reason why I think this one little dude is different is that he has more "hair" then the others. Also the metasoma is thinker then the rest of my S. mesaensis. Maybe its just me? drinking too many Rockstars I guess ::lol::
Well one thing that does point to it being a Hadrurus sp. is that its chela is less bulbous and more streamlined compared to the S. Mesaensis.
So I guess I might be leaning towards Hadrurus now. Also I noticed some black rounded markings around the eyes that looks like the center section of the mask. It seems that not all Arizonensis have very noticeable masks. the male in this picture from Scorpion Files doesn't have a very strong mask to it:
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/h_arizonensis_mating1.jpg
Eric, Do you know if you got this one from the 1st site or the 2nd? If from the 1st site I would strongly lean towards Hadrurus. If from the 2nd then it "could" be a dune, but I think more and more that my initial guess was incorrect and it is a Hadrurus. If it is indeed a Hadrurus then I would also agree with Vixvy on it being a Pallidus.
You guys dont know why the call it the desert hairy scorpion . Thats a H. arizonensis pallidus. Nice coloring too complete lack of mask I would love to breed it with mine when it matures.
EDIT: Actually does have a bit of mask around the eyes if you look at it. _________________ AbYsS
Eddy H.
You guys dont know why the call it the desert hairy scorpion . Thats a H. arizonensis pallidus. Nice coloring too complete lack of mask I would love to breed it with mine when it matures.
EDIT: Actually does have a bit of mask around the eyes if you look at it.
Hey Eddy,
Haha, Thats what I put in my first post, he is hairier and just looked more "heavy" bodied compared to the others. Oh yeah, all the dunes looked normal, no reds
Hey Sean,
I have no clue where this one was collected. I usually number, photograph and GPS everything I collect but, not this time since we were on a "recreational" trip.
Darn, oh well Just let me know when your arizonensis is ready to bump uglies I got males and females so worries on the sex. _________________ AbYsS
Eddy H.
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. Thats a H. arizonensis pallidus. Nice coloring too complete lack of mask I would love to breed it with mine when it matures.
