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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: L. bishopi Reply with quote

Just want to share the L. bishopi purchased from KenTheBugGuy.com

Here is some pics:



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She is a Beauty in Red!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one is very specialized in catching flying insects. As soon as she was left alone in her tank she webbed across two opposite corners a "net", not the usual abnormal Theridiid web, but just a bunch of strands very close together across the open space all lined up with each other. Se should soon build the catching web underneath.
As flying bugs hit the upper net they may get stuck there, or become disoriented and fall down to the web below where they get stuck and she rushes down to deliver the envenomating bite.

Already had two large crickets, and I'm hoping she lays another sac as the first one didn't survive the cold evening when she was dropped off and left outside the house.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

balam wrote:
she webbed across two opposite corners a "net", not the usual abnormal Theridiid web, but just a bunch of strands very close together across the open space all lined up with each other. Se should soon build the catching web underneath.


That's what all my hesps and geos did...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, my geos usually just make a big tangle and build their retreat in a corner mid-level to all the web.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to upload pics, but this beauty gave me a going away present on Wednesday the 13th (at dawn). EGG SAC!!!!!!

It is huge, she has it placed in the middle of the retreat and it was hanging straight down; today I came to find the sac still looking great, and that this gorgeous mother is taking good care of it by turning it (it was hanging on its side today)

I took pics on the 13th that I will load up at some point tomorrow.


YAY!!!!!!! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool.  I see bishopi being pushed a bit lately ...wonder if they are coming from the same source?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very cool.  I see bishopi being pushed a bit lately ...wonder if they are coming from the same source?


Don't think so as the guy that sells them to me only sells to me.  Unless someone else got them from me and is selling them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooohh lovely! I want some babbehs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She had come with one sac that turned out to be no good.

It has been nearly, a month I think, then she laid another one.

I'm keeping her on a minimal diet for the next two weeks or so, then I will change the feeding routine and hope she gives me another one by end Feb or early March.... unless of course this is the last one.

What do you think Steven? How many sacs can you push out of a bishopi?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the first sac was infertile...I doubt you will get a fertile sac out of her.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D: aw.. well.. maybe, just maybe.. *crosses fingers for you!*
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know if it was truly infertile.

It was shipped in a vial wit paper towels in it. Inside of the vial were both the sac and the female bishopi.

The package was left outside and it was there for about 5 hours before I got home. Although it had been incredibly cold that day Ken did put some heat packs in the package.

I guess we'll have to wait and see...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: PIcs Reply with quote

here is some pics for your enjoyment... so.... enjoy!






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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap!, I forgot to rotate them... they should be rotated to the left.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All hard to say ...so many unknowns.  
If a sac gets soaked, it will most likely die.  

If the girl was WC as an adult most likely shes gravid.  

Get her and her sac up to 60% or so humidity. Always seems easiest to regulate the humidity of a larger container or plastic drawer and put her enclosure in there. The reason i say this is that its easy to humid or dry shock a small container when trying to control the moisture in it. Seems a good week or two of SoCal dry can screw a bishopi sac ...same goes for getting it too soaked in swampy enclosure air.
They do move and rotate their sacs...best would be to give her a space where she could move it around between moist and dry.  Thats not so easy though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS STEVEN!

She is in a 7 Gal tank (approx, since it was custom made)

So far she has not moved the sac out of the retreat but she is turning it.

I could not resist and shone a flashlight onto the sack and could see what i call a good sign:

lots of round yellow balls....

hopefully its a good sign Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah well I guess those eggs were infertile as well... they seem to be developing and then they just stop, and they end up being little hard yellow and white little balls.....

Gonna see if she lays another one and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

=/ aw lame. well i hope she lays a fertile one soon, if not we should go in on an order from ken on 2 in one order to save money on shipping Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds to me like she needs a *male*!  ;-)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

balam wrote:
Yeah well I guess those eggs were infertile as well... they seem to be developing and then they just stop, and they end up being little hard yellow and white little balls.....

Gonna see if she lays another one and see what happens.


bummer.  Humidity?  
Yep, probably needs to mate.   Question  Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I'm on the hunt for a male.

Didn't have luck last time though....

If anyone hears anything about an available single dude for her; well, let me know.

Humidity might have been a problem... I think  the fact that I pulled the egg sac out of her container didn't help either. I will try to leave the next one in as long as possible, just gotta watch out with the tiny vent holes. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Oscar, did you see how I kept my widow?
I use one of those terrestrial cubes that only have the 1 hole on top. to cover the hole I have some medical type tape from the hospital that has tiny holes in it, and I put this over the whole, and I've never had a singlr sling escape from this.

?? Bishopi are what they call red widows? if so I'm suppose to be getting some slings in the near future.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, they're the reds Warren.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Smile



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