Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: Prehistoric Pets
Prehistoric pets bad. Bad.....BAD. They have many G. rosea that are in tiny deli cups and used for parties. They always have soggy substrate and a molded sponge. This is where I got Kali, the fatally bleeding Cobalt Blue.
I went in last Saturday and they had a G. rosea marked in Sharpie as MEAN, DO NOT HANDLE. She was on stinky paper towels in a beat up too small deli cup and had FIRE ANTS in her container with her. I made a deal with the owner to give her to me at cost and brought her home. She has been stung by the ants several times on her joints and abdomen. She was violently trying to escape the ants SHOCKER and that does not make her MEAN. I got her out of there and away from the ants and into a clean home. She has now eaten, is starting to regain mobility from the stings but does have dermatitis like conditions on her abdomen at the sting points. She is VERY handleable and not MEAN at all. Chris and I have both handled her. She is going into either premolt or is about to drop an eggsac.
I do not recommend going there, if you do talk them down in price. The keeping conditions of the tarantulas and the use of them are deplorable. _________________ Tabbie Norton,
Associate Editor
American Tarantula Society
"It's an itsy bitsy world"
They are either in Fountain Valley or Huntington Beach...not sure because that area is the city border. They are on Brookhurst Street. _________________ Tabbie Norton,
Associate Editor
American Tarantula Society
"It's an itsy bitsy world"
i've been in Prehistoric Pets a few times over the past many, many years. i don't think they've ever really taken good care of their T's. i won't give them my business for even buying any supplies.
They are either in Fountain Valley or Huntington Beach...not sure because that area is the city border. They are on Brookhurst Street.
Fountain Valley, Brookhurst and Garfield in the same shopping center as Turner's Outdoorsman. I have done some business with them in the past when I used to breed Ball Pythons and I will tell you that really truly SUCK. ALL of the cages for every animal be it Invert or Reptile have ants and mites, They charge $24.99 for a small G. rosea which is crazy. When it comes to ball pythons they try and sell them WAY too high and try and rip people off when it comes to bringing some in. Jay is the owner and the guy is an a-hole that doesnt care about the animals, only the income!
Here's the link to their website. I think you can also click through & link to their party website & see what joy they put their party animals through. It's pretty atrocious. They're close by, so they're my ultimate last choice when everyone else local is out of crix, but it's always irritating to go & in there & see absolutely no concern or improvement. _________________ Quod me nutrit me destruit
I went there today and purchased a Cyclosternum Fasciatum for $30, cheap price. Container is nearly dripping wet, but the spider is in good health, because they just got them in a week ago, not enough time to do damage.
A heads up... One of the guys there is working on getting many, many more T's in stock coming the new year (Early to mid January) the list of things coming in looks good, prices will probably be ok (Their Rosea are expensive, but their other T's were always good priced, YEARS ago when they had a selection)
This guy is new to T's, and the only guy there that keeps T's, he seems really nice and willing to learn, he had a nice chat with me and I told him a couple things and he seemed generally interesting in learning (A glimmer of hope)
I didn't get his name, but he's a younger guy with a shaved head.
There is a prehistoric pets in chino. I have been there...They are very expensive there. I saw a leoprd gecko that I was going to buy because it had really nice coloration. I asked to see it. It was a female at 60 dollars. It was missing several toes and seemed to be impacted. Then they fed their beardies canned crickets that expired already........ Then they has rosies in waterlogged peat moss.....It was quite upsetting. I then tried to tell them how to properly take care of their leos and rosies but they said they had a special pattern that they follow that keeps the animals healthy....they wouldnt even listen......Then what really made me mad was one of the guys was out side found a beetle and fed it to the spiders.......he didn't even check to see if it had mites........I really dont like it there. _________________ sorry i just lost the game.....
Thats why most of us try to avoid them.... _________________ “Look down at me and you see a fool;
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yeah. The one by me is worse now, they have larger spiders, different types, all (From what I could see) looked healthy now, but sooner or later they wont be. Expensive stuff there too, very expensive.
I did see one T I liked, didn't have a label, of course nobody had any clue what it was, the most brilliant answer I got when I asked "What is this ?" was "its a spider"
I pretty much only buy feeders from here these days, but that's only if I absolutely have to.
The crickets usually seem lively and healthy, but their pinkie mice have a weird yellowish fungus-looking patch on them. My snake, the one I buy the pinkies for, doesn't seem to have any health problems from eating mice from Prehistoric Pets, but she doesn't eat them right away like she does with mice I buy from other stores.
Some of their reptiles look healthier than others, but I don't know a whole lot about them, so I don't know if they one that aren't doing much are sick or just taking a break.
Their Ts -- ugh! Sometimes they'll put a T in a display tank to attract potential buyers, but the others are kept in a deli cup with a moist paper towel and they usually have condensation building up on the bottom side of the lid. I'm sure the rosies hate this. They also keep their A. avics like this, but they probably appreciate the humidity a bit more than the rosies do. _________________ My Facebook | My MySpace
Sadly this is where I bought my Emperor getting me into this hobby in the first place. They keep a large number of Emps in an enclosure under the counter that is about 10 gallons (approximately 20-25 in there) and dry bark as substrate. When I bought my Emp I did not know much about them. The guy at the counter who claimed to be their scorpion expert told me that sand was fine and not to leave water in the enclosure, just to leave a moist paper towel. Once I learned that this was the improper care I corrected the enclosure.
A bit later I was there again (my wife was buying got her G. Rosea that got her started on the T's) and I was telling the so called "expert" the species that I wanted to get (except this time I actually knew a little bit about scorps and had done my research and was stating the scientific names) and he said the following (and I quote this): "Yeah the other day I was handling an Arizona Ringtail, they are pretty deadly".... I just nodded my head and walked away from that.
The Chino location isn't much better and is less clean. I know my wife let them have it about using hte wrong substrate for a baby Leopard Gecko.
They are either in Fountain Valley or Huntington Beach...not sure because that area is the city border. They are on Brookhurst Street.
They have two locations:
Fountain Valley and Chino-The staff at both locations are dumb ( I am trying to be somewhat nice). I bought my Rosie "Hersila" from the fountain valley location-The Chino location does not carry Tarantulas or Scorpions. Anyhow, Hersila is a sub adult that was cramped in a deli container with a dead cricket. The smell from the cups is horrible. She is a very nice T considering the condition she came from.
I probably would have rescued the Rosie as well even though I have made it a policy to never buy from pet stores ever again especially from Prehistoric. Many of the animals are not kept in the proper environments and the staff is uneducated.
If the people of Prehistoric pets spent half as much time on boards like this educating themselves, the welfare of the animals would be so much better off.
There is a prehistoric pets in chino. I have been there...They are very expensive there. I saw a leoprd gecko that I was going to buy because it had really nice coloration. I asked to see it. It was a female at 60 dollars. It was missing several toes and seemed to be impacted. Then they fed their beardies canned crickets that expired already........ Then they has rosies in waterlogged peat moss.....It was quite upsetting. I then tried to tell them how to properly take care of their leos and rosies but they said they had a special pattern that they follow that keeps the animals healthy....they wouldnt even listen......Then what really made me mad was one of the guys was out side found a beetle and fed it to the spiders.......he didn't even check to see if it had mites........I really dont like it there.
I gave them crap for the sand substrate for the Leo's as well. The best substrate for young Geckos is paper towels. Yes, it does not look pretty but its sanitary and they will not get impacted. I have an adult Leo named "Cleo" and I still use white paper towels.
I tried to tell them as well but they do not listen. They always say, "We never have had a problem before!" I told them that your luck is going to run out at some point and unfortunately, its at the animals expense. The impaction that you witnessed was probably from all the sand they use.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: they are still at it!
[quote="Tabbie Norton"]Prehistoric pets bad. Bad.....BAD. They have many G. rosea that are in tiny deli cups and used for parties. They always have soggy substrate and a molded sponge. This is where I got Kali, the fatally bleeding Cobalt Blue.
"I went in last Saturday and they had a G. rosea marked in Sharpie as MEAN, DO NOT HANDLE. She was on stinky paper towels in a beat up too small deli cup and had FIRE ANTS in her container with her. I made a deal with the owner to give her to me at cost and brought her home. She has been stung by the ants several times on her joints and abdomen. She was violently trying to escape the ants SHOCKER and that does not make her MEAN. I got her out of there and away from the ants and into a clean home. She has now eaten, is starting to regain mobility from the stings but does have dermatitis like conditions on her abdomen at the sting points. She is VERY handleable and not MEAN at all. Chris and I have both handled her. She is going into either premolt or is about to drop an eggsac."
I went there this Saturday, and the conditions are the same. I tried to bail out a Rosey but my husband said no. His reasoning was that if I take that one, another Rosey will be put in that ones place and subjected to the ant issue. The rosey was on the side of her deli cup avoiding the ants but they did not seem to be picking on him/her. I was so upset. My arms were being bitten from black and red ants when I leaned on the counter top.
I am going to write them a letter and I may report them as well. I was speaking to someone at Reptile Island and he said the the conditions in the back are worse than up at the front. He said he use to clean cages for them and he found ants, flies and maggots in the cages. I believe that because I have seen flies and I have seen the ants.
At some point, we have to stop getting mad and make these people take care of these animals. If they can not handle that many, they should not have them.
I keep ALL my cages clean not matter what the risk is to me or how long it takes me. Cages have to stay sanitary or they become filthy and invite mites and other nasty critters in (Try telling that to Peaches, My OBT-She love it dirty ::lol::).
We must hold these type of places accountable for their actions. Just because its not a cute puppy or kitten does not mean it does not have feelings or should not be treated with the same amount of respect as any other living thing.
I was just there today, mostly to see their current T selection. Then I remembered why I had been avoiding this place.
They had a MM rosie and I asked the girl at the counter if I could possibly get a discount on it since it doesn't have much longer to live. She said she's not authorized to do that, but that she'll check with her manager. She came back and said that the manager can't lower the price since the prices are set by the owner and that she also asked the owner and he said no. She then said that she's been told that males and females can live about 10 to 15 years. I told her that's the case with females, but once a male matures, it's pretty much a death sentence and his days are numbered. She seemed to get it, but I ended up not buying the T.
Along with that, my primary reason was to get some crickets for my Ts. With all the bugs all over the place (not the kind to keep as pets), I passed on them as well and just bought some at the Petsmart down the street. _________________ My Facebook | My MySpace
I was just there today, mostly to see their current T selection. Then I remembered why I had been avoiding this place.
They had a MM rosie and I asked the girl at the counter if I could possibly get a discount on it since it doesn't have much longer to live. She said she's not authorized to do that, but that she'll check with her manager. She came back and said that the manager can't lower the price since the prices are set by the owner and that she also asked the owner and he said no. She then said that she's been told that males and females can live about 10 to 15 years. I told her that's the case with females, but once a male matures, it's pretty much a death sentence and his days are numbered. She seemed to get it, but I ended up not buying the T.
Along with that, my primary reason was to get some crickets for my Ts. With all the bugs all over the place (not the kind to keep as pets), I passed on them as well and just bought some at the Petsmart down the street.
Go to Radical Reptiles in Stanton. Their prices are a lot better, their food is a LOT better (Crix / flies / pinkies / rats) and they actually have some nice inverts once in awhile.
Although still overpriced compared to a hobbyist (As a store will always be) they at least have great food. Nobody knows about T's there.
Common things are overpriced (Because they sell a lot) and more uncommon stuff is cheaper then usual (5" Female X. Immanis for $60 about a year ago comes to mind) _________________ www.orotundaudio.com Making high quality Microphone and Instrument cables.
Believe me, I'd rather go to Radical Reptiles anyway, but it was just a matter of convenience that I went to Prehistoric Pets since I had some business to take care of in the area.
Their T prices are so-so. I bought a 3.75" B. albo for $30 there, as well as a Pampho Sp 2 "Ecuador" (I think) for $70.
I agree that their feeders are a lot better. _________________ My Facebook | My MySpace
I do not know much about their feeders but the store is a little dirty. The critters are on the proper substrate and they are a little high but the people are nice.
I like reptile island in Yorba Linda-Closer for me than Radical reptiles.
I am getting to the point where I am just going to have crickets and roaches shipped to me. Cheaper in the long run when you have to feed 100+ Arachnids.
100+ Arachnids???? Is there something you're not telling me???
Anyhow, Radical Reptiles was a bit dirty when we went there. The people there were nice enough and seemed to know about what they had. Though they are a bit of a drive from Chino Hills.
Brandon works/worked there (meaningless end) and he knows about the T's and scorps, and def. isnt scared to handle them. if youve seen his youtube stuff. Most of there stuff is/was supplied by Chris krazy8.
I havent been in there in almost a year but it might have changed since then. _________________ “Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself.”
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My arms were being bitten from black and red ants when I leaned on the counter top. 
